Someone Dropped a Dime on Hal Turner

(Tip o' the tinfoil hat to PhoenixWoman at Mercury Rising by way of reader Bridget Magnus, aka the Short Woman.)
This is a better way to start your day than a cup of joe and a blowjob. In a way, ya gotta feel sorry for Hal, considering that he just got his radio show back on the air. Then again, you don't have to if you don't want to.
Not too long ago, I said to Hal Turner, "But the great thing about luck is that the law of averages will eventually will out and even the obscenely lucky will eventually start pumping air."
Well, apparently it did because at 4:15 yesterday afternoon, Hal Turner was arrested in North Bergen, NJ on a warrant sworn out by the Connecticut state Capitol police. I wish I could say that I had something to do with this but it was over another crime of Turner's that I didn't even know about. In case you think this is a prank or hoax, someone posted news of Hal Turner's arrest on his cesspool of a blog.
The post in question, as per Hal's usual MO, was to disseminate over the Turner Radio "Network" the home addresses of the Office of State Ethics' Thomas K. Jones and two Connecticut lawmakers, Rep. Michael Lawlor, D-East Haven and Sen. Andrew McDonald, D-Stamford.
Luckily, the Ct. Capitol police somehow found out about Turner's threat and he was taken into custody at the North Bergen, NJ PD less than four hours before air time. At this time, he awaits extradition back to Connecticut for his arraignment. So, what was this all about?
Apparently, Reps. Lawlor and McDonald had introduced legislation through their judiciary committee that would've made the archdiocese register as lobbyists. The action, in Turner's own words, "would reorganize the internal structure of local parishes to remove priests and bishops from financial oversight to replace them with boards of laypeople.
It turns out that Lawlor and McDonald are adamant advocates of same-sex marriage legislation and are apparently trying to punish the church for standing against their agenda."
Yeah, you hit the nail on the head, Hal. If you won't let total strangers marry within their own gender, which they can do in Connecticut, anyway, I'll make it harder for you to engage in political activities which you shouldn't be doing if you enjoy tax-exempt status.
So Hal found his inner Bill Donohue (oddly enough, Donohue's Catholic League never even bothered writing either about the Connecticut bill or Turner's arrest) and he said of these "tyrannical scumbags",
After all, if they are so proud of what they're doing, they shouldn't mind if everyone knows where they live.
It is our intent to foment direct action against these individuals personally. These beastly government officials should be made an example of as a warning to others in government: Obey the Constitution or die.
If any state attorney, police department or court thinks they're going to get uppity with us about this; I suspect we have enough bullets to put them down too.
No doubt, Thomas Jefferson is pinching the bridge of his nose up in heaven and wishing he'd chosen his words more carefully.
My question is, why did it take so long for this to happen? Another question: Earlier this year, Turner threatened to disseminate the private home addresses of 246 federal lawmakers and, despite a massive email campaign waged by yours truly in which I'd warned the FBI, the TSA, the North Bergen PD, the Washington DC Capitol Police and the lawmakers themselves, not a single thing was done. How come Turner was allowed to post with utter impunity instructions on how to make ricin and bombs and was allowed to threaten the lives of at least two presidents and two presidential candidates?
Yet Turner threatens two state lawmakers and eponymous law enforcement agencies and suddenly that's more actionable than all of the above? So the police will respond only if they're threatened even in the abstract and everyone else is left to fend for themselves?
I guess we ought to be grateful for small favors. Myself, I'd rather chain Turner's fat, nasty ass in a cornfield somewhere and wait for aliens to abduct him so he can be anally probed forever in the cold dark void of outer space. Yet one has to wonder how much and how long this paid informant was shielded by his handlers at the FBI (principally Stephen Haug) and whether or not the Bureau ought to be investigated for their collusion with this lunatic.
24 Comments:
Wow, JP, hell of a story here. I must hang my head in shame at being so uninformed but I had no idea that Hal Turner was even still alive--I thought he wrote some dumb books back in the 60s or so and then puttered off like Jeanne Dixon to live off the proceeds and lecture circuit of harmless loonies.
Hope this CT stuff sticks. A conviction on even fairly innocuous charges makes it vastly easier to go after him the next time he tries something similar.
Good work there. *applause*
instructions on how to make ricin and bombs
Distributing such information isn't illegal. Though if you have a foreign Muslimy-soundy name, it'll probably raise big red flags somewhere.
Yet Turner threatens two state lawmakers and eponymous law enforcement agencies and suddenly that's more actionable than all of the above?
Maybe because the FBI would have jurisdiction in all the aforementioned cases? Turner was finally stupid enough to incite violence against people who work for a local government with its own law enforcement agency protecting them.
Or maybe it was finally specific enough. I seem to remember that he never did post the names and addresses of Congressmen that he threatened to.
Maybe the radio show helped too. As long as he's just a random blogging nutcase, nobody really notices. But someone of greater prominence can't get away with saying such things.
Great news, Pork! You just had to know that these creeps finally, at some point, get sloppy while wrapped in their hubris.
I'd like to see this guy totally exposed to Bubba. : )
Hi JP,
I grew up in East Haven CT. We don’t like to be threatened by piss-ants. I wrote a number of letters to lawmakers about our pal Hal. My key point was not his protected free speech rants, it was his obsession with violence. I pointed out that a person who is displaying this fascination with harming people by inciting others is a warning sign that shouldn’t be ignored. I hope they lock him up for a long long time.
Mike
Anon: Hopefully, in the prison shower. But it would be hard for me to believe that even a horny, 300 pound prison bull would find Hal's soft, amorphous figure attractive.
"It is our intent to foment direct action against these individuals personally."
That is they key line. The word 'intent' is the magic word that opens the way to prosecution.
O'Reilly, Limbaugh and the rest of the far-right extremist media pundits are very careful to walk a fine line on the edge of criminal incitement.
Turner went clearly over that line with that one sentence.
My thought is that Turner got so cocky because her got away with his threats for so long that he felt he could 'go all the way' and finally say what he really wanted to: actually ordering his audience to commit murders and giving them the directions to the targets homes.
Freaky extremists, like Fox News... Personally I would like that line shifted closer to politeness and respect. Rush Limbaugh clearly needs to be imprisoned for incitement to violence...
I first learned about this dangerous whackjob from you, JP, and was more or less convinced that he'd go his merry way unmolested until someone got badly hurt. I am greatly relieved that such did not prove to be the case and can only hope that even the most minimal police investigation into his background will expose what a puddle of diarrhea he's been for so long.
By the way, I found out about his takedown from jovial Johnny Amato's Crooks & Liars.
It made my day...
Well, angel, glad I could be of some service.
I'm sure that his old lesbian lover Sean Hannity will break his neck flying down to CT to bail his fat ass out of jail.
Freakin' beautiful...As was said earlier, he went over the line and I can only hope he's shrieking about his First Amendment rights on camera at some point...
Hopefully as he's frogmarched to his jail cell...
You think they'll want to put him on TV now?
excellent news, JP. btw, great postings yesterday and today. very, um, intense.
b.
Great post as usual, but I was surprised. I was so sure the HALTURNERSHOW.COM would be the first comment...that somehow he would find a way (like a horror movie monster) to be right back at his slimy keyboard ready to respond within seconds of any mention of his name on the internet. As far as why now, I think law enforcement is (at least temporarily) paying attention to these clowns after Dr. Tiller. Or maybe it's luck finally did run out --- I hope so.
Someone's taking comments again (except mine) and you should see what Fat Harry's friends are saying. Needless to say, they're up in arms... literally and figuratively.
JP: the Southern Poverty Law Center, which has listed Hal as a "veteran, neo-nazi threatmeister," had this posted on their Hate Watch blog:
On Wednesday, veteran neo-Nazi threatmeister Hal Turner, whom Hatewatch reported in 2008 may have been on the FBI payroll, was taken into custody by police in his hometown of North Bergen, N.J. According to Turner’s blog, the police tricked him into coming to the station by telling him about a possible death threat against him. Turner is scheduled to appear in court today to face extradition to Connecticut, where police reportedly intend to charge him with inciting injury to persons or property.
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/06/04/neo-nazi-shock-jock-hal-turner-arrested-for-incitement/
I'm practically pissing my pants reading that, Mr618. Figures, the fat stupid fuck fell for it. But it goes to show you how scared the North Bergen PD is of Turner and his threats, that they have to resort to trickery to arrest him instead of using brute force if necessary.
Saw this on Oliver Willis' and thought of you.
Beebo profiles? What's that?
The bad news is that I think Hal has a good chance of beating the rap. The good news is that since yesterday afternoon I've read quotes from Hal even worse than the ones that got him arrested, as well as more about his connection to Hannity. Hal wanted to be a superpatriot ultraright political prisoner like his nutcase militia & tax resister pals. Gotta flush the roach into the open to step on it. & then you gotta grind it good to squish it.
It ought to be noted that both CT lawmakers are openly gay, making Hal Turner's threat against them a possible hate crime, which would carry much stiffer penalties (no pun intended).
I'm sure that his old lesbian lover Sean Hannity will break his neck flying down to CT to bail his fat ass out of jail.
That line made me laugh for about five minutes without coming up for air. Granted, the mental picture you paint is repulsive, but still....
I do my best, Mr. Grigg, I do my best.
Look,I want to take this opportunity to set the record straight.. (no pun intended). As an alien,I'm really getting tired of us receiving the blame for those anal probe thingy's!!
Trust me,the last damned thing we as aliens wish to probe is the human ass!!!! We have much better things to do than orbiting uranus!!
We've been receiving the blame for government agriculture secret ops since....the air in Nevada and the southwest became radioactive due to your military experiments!!
And....Before anyone starts wondering why an alien such as myself, would spend a moment to set the record straight via the internet...Well....We invented this technology!!
Many,THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO!!
You earthlings are STILL fascinated by internet porn!!
Moreover....
If it were not for a little incident in Roswell....You knuckle dragging bastards would never have had the "window" of opportunity to acquire our technology!!
LOL! Points well taken.
Na-noo, na-noo.
Ya know...This pic would've been perfect for a caption contest...
Please indulge me...
Hal Turner: "With this token,I can view a full 3 minutes of extreme hardcore porn in the booth just to my right!!"
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