Tuesday, July 15, 2008

Gitmo Interrogation Video Released

I honestly don't know what to make of this video of then-sixteen year-old Omar Khadr being interrogated at Gitmo by Canadian security officials. Let me just say right off the bat that at no time during this "highlight reel" is he tortured, mistreated or even laid a hand on. The Canadians who showed up to interrogate Khadr, who's a Canadian citizen of Afghani extraction, were plainly there to gain his trust but to offer no sympathy.

The story goes that Khadr was picked up six years ago in Afghanistan during a firefight with American forces. Obviously, the boy was severely injured in the battle but the question remains: Was he fighting alongside the Taliban, did he kill an American soldier as he's been accused or was he just in the wrong place at the wrong time?

If he is indeed a Taliban sympathizer, especially one who killed an American soldier, then obviously we shouldn't be too concerned about sleep deprivation and whether or not he's getting adequate medical care.

But the spots in the video (a couple of minutes out of seven hours of footage released by our government at the behest of Mr. Khadr's Canadian attorneys) in which the boy breaks down does not, to me, signify a hardened Taliban operative spouting propaganda about overthrowing the evil, decadent west. The child that I see in this video is scared, betrayed, vulnerable. At one point he actually moans, "Kill me." As a father of three children, my heart goes out to him and, yeah, I'll admit it, I want to hug him and take away his pain. Sue me for being a bleeding heart liberal.

If this boy is a hardened terrorist who actually killed one of our own (his parents have been described as "fundamentalists" which shouldn't imply that they're Islamic fundamentalist terrorists or sympathizers), there's still a chance that he may not have admitted it, which would explain his six year-long incarceration. However, you have to consider that if he was actually an innocent boy back then who was caught by the highly suspect Northern Alliance, you'd think he would've cracked by now and confessed to whatever it is they want him to confess.

In the end, I don't know what to make of this extremely brief sampling of the child's interrogation but when I see his sleep-deprived reactions to his captors and interrogators, I keep going back to Donald Rumsfeld's characterization of Guantanamo Bay detainees as being "the worst of the worst" (young Omar now wears the white jumpsuit that identifies the most compliant, more model prisoners). I think of Jeff Sessions during Lt. Cmdr. Charles Swift's testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee in 2005 and Sessions saying that all the detainees in Gitmo ought to be executed immediately. Yes, there's a legitimate question as to whether he could be a radical fundamentalist and killer. But here's a better question:

What if he really was an innocent 16 year-old child caught in the wrong place in the wrong time?


At July 15, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Anonymous Herman said...

"killed one of our own . . ." ???

Are you freaking serious? Has your thinking become so infected by the craven "us" vs. them" manner in which the business media frame this bogus manichean conflict fobbed off on the American Idiot as "the war on/against/[random preposition] "terror"?

Stop watching "Lost" and start engaging in genuine, serious, self-reflective thinking.

At July 15, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Blogger The Minstrel Boy said...

look herman, even if he did kill "one of our own" (and i am speaking as a combat veteran) he was a local boy legitimately defending his country against invasion.

the whole "everybody is a terrorist" thing is complete and utter bullshit.

he's a fucking kid. you heartless fuck.

At July 16, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Blogger Muslims Against Sharia said...

Lt.C. Ralph Peters on Omar Khadr Gitmo Tape: "We should have killed that punk on a battlefield where it was legal to do so!"

Watch video at http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/07/ltc-ralph-peters-on-omar-khadr-gitmo.html

"the whole "everybody is a terrorist" thing is complete and utter bullshit."

Taliban are terrorists. Fighting for Taliban is terrorism, you stupid fuck.

If "he was a local boy legitimately defending his country against invasion", why the hell is he asking to come to Canada, not Afghanistan?

"and i am speaking as a combat veteran"

Taking it up the ass while touching a gun hardly makes you a combat veteran.

At July 16, 2008 at 2:47 AM, Blogger The Minstrel Boy said...

yeah, right, let's fucking torture them all, then kill them.

what's next bbq and chow call?

that's right, torture, get them to confess, kill and eat them.

then the world will know what great and brave motherfuckers you all are.

you disgust me. in a more civilized world the code duello would still be in place and idiots like you could be reasonably called out.

At July 16, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Blogger Muslims Against Sharia said...

Cocksuckers like you are only brave from behind computer screens. But you really need to be a dumbfuck to take a terrorist's word over soldier's. Show what a fucking "combat veteran" you are.

At July 16, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Blogger jurassicpork said...

Herman: You're a fucking moron and your reductionist thinking isn't even worth parsing, much less responding to. You took my statements out of context.

M.A.S.- It's you whom I'd like to address here:

First off, your homophobic comments toward my friend Stevie are, to say the least, not welcome here. Accusing him of being a homosexual just because you disagree with what you believe he said shows you up to be a homophobe and an intellectual trog.

You have no idea whether this kid is a terrorist or not and accusing us with your own "Us vs Them" mindset of siding with terrorists just for asking aloud whether this kid could be innocent shows what a right wing fuck you are.

As for Stevie's credentials of being a combat vet that you feel comfortable impugning, let me tell you something: Without divulging things that are better left unsaid, let's just say that both he and your host here could do things to you that would make a buzzard puke. Then we'd piss napalm on your grave.

You know nothing of what either of us had been through while we were in the Navy, so do yourself a favor and shut the fuck up before you further embarrass yourself, you intellectual bulimic.

At July 16, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Blogger Muslims Against Sharia said...

“First off, your homophobic comments toward my friend Stevie are, to say the least, not welcome here. Accusing him of being a homosexual just because you disagree with what you believe he said shows you up to be a homophobe and an intellectual trog.”

Get that chip off your shoulder, you stupid shit. Nobody is accusing him of being a homosexual, I’m accusing him (and you) of being a fucking dumbass. Frankly, I don’t give a shit if you suck each other off on a daily basis, it is none of my business.

“You have no idea whether this kid is a terrorist or not”

Little shit threw a grenade that killed Sgt. First Class Christopher J. Speer. (If you were a veteran, you’d be concerned about him and his family, not the fuck who murdered him.) Since the little cocksucker did it while fighting for Taliban, that makes him a terrorist. And just because you’re too fucking stupid to know what “terrorist” means, and you’re too fucking stupid to take the word of that little shit over the word of Sgt. Layne Morris, the facts don’t change. And let me reiterate that only a little cocksucker like you would claim to be a combat vet while taking the word of a terrorist over the word of a real combat vet. A combat vet would not issue threats from behind the computer, but a cocksucker like you would.

“You know nothing of what either of us had been through while we were in the Navy”

I don’t need to. Your own statements prove that you are a little shit living in your parent’s basement.

I shouldn’t be calling you a cocksucker. It’s offensive to cocksuckers. You’re nothing but a piece-of-shit-terrorist-sympathizer.

At July 16, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Anonymous herman said...

As we have all come to expect, JP, you invariably resort to foul-mouthed name-calling and evasive derision whenever you've been called to task and have no reasoned explanation.

Oh well, at least we all know we are, in fact, back in Pottersville.

At July 16, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Anonymous herman said...

Oh . . . and by the way, I find it most telling that in responding to M.A.S. you adopt the term "terrorist" as if it has some status as a neutral signifier of reality. In fact, as every flunky propogandist in the Bush administration knows, under the current geo-political climate, "terrorism" and "terrorist" are ideologically loaded terms. Your use of the term is analogous to some white guy saying, "I think that it is terrible that my grandfather hated niggers."

Anyhoo . . . I love the fact that you chastise M.A.S. for homophobia, then without skipping a beat resort to the most pedestrian of masculinist threats.

I mean, this is freaking hysterical! Thank you so much! So glad you're back!

At July 16, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Blogger jurassicpork said...

As we have all come to expect, JP, you invariably resort to foul-mouthed name-calling and evasive derision whenever you've been called to task and have no reasoned explanation.

Gee, who was the first one to call who a "stupid fuck"?

Secondly, I never made a threat against anyone. Saying, "I could kill you with one thumb" isn't quite the same thing as saying "I ought to kill you with one thumb" or "I will kill you with one thumb." It's a simple statement of a fact.

At July 16, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Blogger Muslims Against Sharia said...

'I never made a threat against anyone. Saying, "I could kill you with one thumb" isn't quite the same thing as saying "I ought to kill you with one thumb"'

Are you really that fucking stupid? Next time you go to a bar, find a man there (not some pussy who claims to be a combat vet, but a real man) and tell him that you could kill him with a thumb. Then, if you get out of the hospital, let me know how it went.

At July 16, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Blogger jurassicpork said...

Isn't it about that time you posted someone else's article on your "moderate" Muslim blog, like Michelle Malkin, for instance?

At July 16, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Blogger Muslims Against Sharia said...

1. Why don't you read the blog and see for yourself?
2. Are you trying to imply that we have an extremist Muslim blog?

At July 16, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Blogger jurassicpork said...

Oh, God no! No, I'm saying that you have an extremist right wing blog since there's no fucking ideological difference between your place and Little Green Footballs, Michelle Malkin's place and Powerline.

Yours only has a slightly better color scheme.

At July 16, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Blogger Muslims Against Sharia said...

"I'm saying that you have an extremist right wing blog"

If you weren't such a degenerate ideologue, you could have noticed that we get as much shit from the Right as we get from the Left. According to you most of the people must belong to extreme Right since they are to the right of you.

At July 16, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Blogger jurassicpork said...

If you weren't such a degenerate ideologue, you could have noticed that we get as much shit from the Right as we get from the Left.

Well, yeah. That's because those pinheads think you have an extremist Muslim blog.

So, either way, you're universally loathed.

At July 16, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Blogger Muslims Against Sharia said...

"That's because those pinheads think you have an extremist Muslim blog."

You're mostly right, but we also get crap for criticizing anyone why is above criticism, kinda like Obama for Obamaniacs. But how it makes you any smarter than them?

"So, either way, you're universally loathed."

On the contrary. According to our polls, about 80% of responders seem to like us, so you are in the minority.

At July 17, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Blogger Bob Kincaid said...

Gee, JP! This is like that line from the first "Batman" movie. "Where does he get these WONDERFUL wingnuts?"

I'm jealous. Most of them won't come out of the shadows any more. You've got a live one in M.A.S. Don't catch him too quick. Keep letting out line and let him flop and flounder some more.

Morans like M.A.S. aren't a dime a dozen anymore. All mine got tired of the ass-whippings and ran away. Drat!

At July 17, 2008 at 2:00 AM, Blogger Muslims Against Sharia said...

Bob Kincaid,

Why don't you learn how to spell the insults before using them, you stupid fuck?

At July 17, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Blogger Bob Kincaid said...


Quick, JP, get the bell jar and the formaldehyde! Ain't nobody ever gonna believe this M.A.S. is for REAL unless you bring proof!

The only wingnut in America who hasn't seen the poster child for right-wing thought and his "Get A Brain Morans" photo! Too rare!


How long have you had internets out in Brotherfuck, Idaho, M.A.S.? Did they just get the tubes to you? Does your screen get all messy from you a-lickin' at it?

Cue voiceover: "Shhhhh! Don't disturb it, Bob! It flees easily. It's homo wingnuttius and they've become quite timid and scarce since being whipped almost to extinction! You can tell by the broad yellow stripe down its belly that this is a really rare one: homo wingnuttius bushlickensis, the slithering night-crawler of the family! Notice there's almost no cranial capacity for a brain whatsoever! Oh, this one really belongs in a natural science museum display! Where once they roamed freely in the American media landscape, their habitat has become circumscribed so that now one only hears their mating calls in segments on the SavageWeiner and PhlushPhlegmball. While we wouldn't want it to breed, we should continue to observe what sorts of gymnastics the poor thing will attempt in an effort to extricate itself from the trap into which it's blundered. Tune in next week as we go on safari to Arkansas in search of another endangered subspecies: homo wingnuttius homeschoolius. We'll be using the 'Evolution is a big myth' call. That usually brings h.wingnuttius homeschoolius scurrying from its habitat behind the baseboards!"

At July 17, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Blogger Muslims Against Sharia said...

Bob Kincaid,

Didn't cousin dad tell you that you slur when you attempt to talk with a mouth full of dick? And learn how to spell "moron", if you use it as an insult, you fucking moron.

At July 17, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Blogger Bob Kincaid said...

OK. I used too many polysyllabic words for M.A.S.

"Moran" is a word used to describe folks like you, stemming from the wingnut whose photo link I posted for you in my earlier response. You're pretty dull, aren't you? Lemme guess: you type with one hand.

And this mancrush you have on a few of the posters, which you've now transferred to me is cute, but the wife doesn't like for me to get it on with morans. Still, your ardor is charming.

At July 17, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Blogger Muslims Against Sharia said...

You shouldn't be confusing being called a cocksucker with mancrush. I couldn't care less that you suck dicks, but it seem to affect your severely limited IQ, and not in a good way.

At July 17, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Blogger jurassicpork said...

Then again, semen is rich in selenium, which has been shown to prevent deterioration in the brain. This might explain why Republicans live so long and why your own cognitive capacity seems lacking.

So, to paraphrase Anita Bryant, eat a fruit today.

At July 17, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Blogger Muslims Against Sharia said...

pork, do you eat your own or your fruit's?


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