Thursday, September 11, 2014

WTF Happened on 9/11?

     It's a perfectly legitimate question, even if it's somewhat rhetorical. Of course, we know what happened 13 years ago today. Three towers in the World Trade Center complex were pulled, a projectile struck the Pentagon and as for Shanksville, Pennsylvania... well, we know something landed in Shanksville but it damned sure wasn't Flight 93.
     So, it's been well-established that the financial and military nerve centers of our nation were successfully attacked by extremists. So the questions we should continue asking ourselves, and each other, is, "Which extremists pulled it off?"
     We're fast losing sight in the mists of history of the basic facts that simply do not jibe with the narrative, so many, in fact, you could literally write a book about it. Among them is the power down in the South Tower on September 8-9, 2001 that essentially crippled security there from the 50th floor on up. This included the electronically locked doors to security areas, cameras, and so forth. Who were the "engineers" in overalls who were swarming the south tower during this time?
     And why was Marvin Bush's business meeting on 9/11 abruptly moved from the World Trade Center to the Millennium Hotel across the street? That would be the same Marvin Bush, brother of George W. Bush, whose company had a security contract for the World Trade Center up until the day before the "terrorist" attacks. Why did the Bulgarians working in the WTC get a phone call the night before and told not to show up for work?
     And why, according to Susan Lindauer's high-ranking State Department official, were unmarked vans pulling in and out of the WTC complex at all odd hours of the night just a week and a half to two weeks before the event and what happened to the security footage that would've shown them? Why were the bomb-sniffing dogs pulled during this time?
     Why were the doors leading to the roofs locked and why, in a scene reminiscent of the Triangle Shirtwaist fire, did security guards tell people WTC2 was secure and to "Go back to your desks?" Since when does building security have the right to tell people in the private sector to get back to work?
     And why was there clear evidence of thermate, essentially thermite with a sulfur kicker, to create an unimaginably hot exothermic reaction that can vaporize galvanized steel (which is what happened)? Thermate, by the way, is patented with the Department of Defense, meaning it's extremely unlikely that a bunch of Islamic militants in a cave 6000 miles away would've been able to get their hands on materiel used exclusively by the Pentagon.
     The execution of the attack was flawless. It was the coverup afterwards that left much to be desired.
     By now, we've all heard of the Bush administration trying not once but twice to block the formation of a 9/11 Commission and when they'd finally relented, Bush tried to pull a fast one and have installed as its chairman Nixon-era war criminal Henry Kissinger. And it would've happened, too, if it wasn't for the Jersey Girls turning up his company's connections to the bin Laden family.
     Then, when Bush was finally called before the Commission, he refused to do so unless he was joined at the hip by Dick Cheney, with the press barred from attending a taxpayer funded proceeding and the Commission forbidden from asking Bush or Cheney questions of any substance.
     Much information that should've been registered with the Commission and the NY Port Authority never was (including the power down on 9/8-9, which the Port Authority still denies to this day). Many witnesses with valuable information to impart were never called to testify. No mention was ever made of Israel's and Mossad's part, the dancing Israelis who were briefly detained by the NYPD on 9/11. No explanation given as to why Mayor Rudy was in such a huge hurry to cart off the rubble from the Twin Towers before it could be forensically examined.
     Despite there being no possibility of witnesses on either aircraft that flew into both towers, the FBI already had a poster of all 19 hijackers with their photographs and a pristine passport for one of them found a few blocks away. Who cared that a full half of them were still alive and had no connection to terrorist activity?
     All we know is the aftermath. Many already obscenely rich people like Larry Silverstein, the WTC's owner, and Dick Cheney became much more obscenely wealthy in the wake of 9/11. Widows, widowers, children, siblings and other loved ones were left in the dark and told not to ask too many questions. Many first responders, using inadequate or outdated equipment, gave their health and, in some cases, their lives. Then Republicans blocked medical coverage for these people, saying we could afford trillions to war profiteers after we'd invaded two nations that had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11 but we can't afford your inhalers that you can get in Cuba for a $1 each.
     So, yeah, the United States government is great at pulling off crimes against humanity but totally suck at the coverup part. They leave too many loose ends and I've given you just a handful of them.
     Far be it for me to indulge in conspiracy theories. But when you add up all the facts and scratch them against the squishy official narrative, a thinking person can't help but come to the conclusion that the setting up of the towers, diverting of air traffic and the staging of crash sites (Shanksville) was carried out by people at the government level.
     And that just doesn't include a few bearded terrorists in the caves of Afghanistan 6000 miles away.


At September 14, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Blogger Stan B. said...

" So, yeah, the United States government is great at pulling off crimes against humanity but totally suck at the coverup part."

They don't have to be good at coverup cause it's not going to go further than it wants, period. Stopping things cold- they are very good at.

Personally, I think at least some of the conspiracy questions have been answered (eg- yes, fuel laden planes could and did bring down the towers, a plane did hit the Pentagon, etc). That does not mean that they didn't have inside help (eg- logistics, personnel and material to facilitate and/or get the job done regardless).

Yes, we'll forever be denied the full truth- just add it to the list of MLK, RFK and JFK...

At September 14, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Blogger jurassicpork said...

No, Stan, a plane did NOT hit the Pentagon. C'mon, a 16 foot-wide aperture and no windows broken on either side of the hole? That's physically impossible. And, no, burning jet fuel did not sever or melt those steel support beams. Thermate, OTOH, could've easily done the job.

At September 15, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Blogger Stan B. said...

Yeah, it did. Now if ya wanna argue as to who was actually piloting the plane when every commercial airline pilot questioned swears to the difficulty of such a maneuver- I'll definitely hear ya out on that...

Remember, they had just finished reinforcing that section of the Pentagon. You can pooh pooh the scientific recreations all ya want, but then it's on you to not only account for the whereabouts of said plane, but of the passengers as well (see 3rd link).

At September 15, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Blogger Stan B. said...

Yeah, jet fuel could have melted the support beams causing the towers to pancake- that doesn't exclude thermite being placed there as insurance.

At September 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Blogger jurassicpork said...


You're not terribly smart, are you? I'm amazed that one of my longtime readers would ever subscribe to this rubbish.

I don't know where you're getting these "facts" but here are the real facts:

Experts have said that jet fuel burns at just over 1000 degrees and that the steel girders in the WTC would need to reach temperatures of 3000. THAT is a fact. And the expert who wrote and published that finding was immediately fired.

The aperture made in the Pentagon, again, was 16 feet wide, much narrower and shorter than the fuselage of a 757 yet the windows on neither side were were even cracked. They "found" a jet engine or two but nothing nearly the size of the Pratt Whitney engines necessary to fly a jet that size. There was almost no other debris, most notably bodies, luggage, etc.

You want to me to tell you what happened to Flight 77? I can't. But here's a clue as to their ultimate fate: Flight 93 was diverted on 9/11 to Cleveland, whereupon all the passengers, according to witness statements, were herded to a remote, high security area and then the sound of machine gun fire and screaming was heard. Infer your own conclusions.

And the aerial acrobatics necessary for the 757 to hit the Pentagon from its original approach would've been impossible for even pilots with thousands of hours of air time, so say pilots with thousands of hours of air time. In fact, one said it would take about 20 attempts to do so.

And if a plane actually hit the Pentagon, then why did they release just 4 stills of a video that don't show the projectile at all? Why confiscate the footage of all 65 video feeds aimed at the Pentagon and what happened to them? If Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, why's the DoD being so squirrely with the so-called "evidence"?

At September 15, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Blogger Stan B. said...

You're right about the steel girders- it was the support trusses that buckled enough at 1500 to initiate pancaking (been a while). Was thermite also involved for good measure- very good question indeed.

As to the Fl 93 passengers being gunned down in Cleveland.... WOW!!! Within earshot of "witnesses" no less. That's definitely a step up, or two, or three from having a pristine passport descend from the skies!

"Infer your own conclusions."

There's still a bridge in my hometown for sale...

At September 19, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Blogger MJ said...

A couple of dots you didn't mention:
1-Arabic speakers working for the CIA (I think) were fired from their job translating feeds from the Middle East into English, around 9/11. Back up tapes for those feeds could keep info for, let's say, 45 days or so. No replacements were hired until that time was definitely passed. No one thought to switch out the back up tapes, or it was too complicated or something. Jon Stewart was the only journalist I caught covering it - he interviewed one of the translators.
2- There were a couple of shooters from Tacoma, WA, who went to the DC area and were driving around shooting random people. An FBI auditor was shot while fueling up during this time and a witness described the shooters - he was hustled off to private interrogation and a file describing the events, including his mysterious motivations for making up stories, was published in record time. I think it took a week. The shooters were caught and rushed through conviction including for the shooting of the auditor in closely controlled circumstances. I think there was something about copping to shooting the auditor to avoid the death penalty, but that is just from memory.
Gotta go now, lots to do.

At September 19, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Anonymous Anton said...

Hey Stan B.:

How do explain that no steel-reinforced skyscraper was EVER dropped into its own footprint as a result of fire? The 3 WTC towers were the only ones in history ever to fail in this unbelievable fashion. The question of whether or not jet fuel is hot enough is beside the point; the fires almost immediately produced BLACK smoke, indicating lack of oxygen, and therefore, dying out.

What flavor is that gub'mint Kool-Aid, anyway?

At September 19, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Blogger Stan B. said...

Anton- The twin towers were uniquely designed, and uniquely "flawed."

#3WTC- whole nother story...


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