Sunday, February 15, 2009

We're Not Bigots. We're Patriots


That's the argument the Nazis used even as they were rounding up and murdering gays, the mentally challenged and Jews. Look how well that agenda worked out.

There are, in my experience, two types of Republicans: There are those who bristle at the thought of being compared to the Nazis. Then there are those to whom a comparison to Nazis is redundant because they've already embraced a defunct political party that no longer controls any country on earth and, by rights, should've been hounded out of existence along with Heritage Foundation think tankers and Barry Manilow fans.

In other words, being associated with the most ruinous movement since St. Peter founded the Roman Catholic Church is actually a badge of honor and the badge is a swastika.

Hal Turner, a waddling brain stem from Jersey who makes Tony Soprano look respectable by comparison, is a case in point. Turner, for reasons that remain inexplicable and disturbing beyond contemplation, continues exhorting others to kill both the President and almost 250 members of Congress, as well as George W. Bush and doing so with a very suspicious impunity.

Thanks to reader and fellow blogger William N. Grigg, who'd written a wonderful post last year that partly referenced it, Turner's association with the FBI is brought to light and they were/are using him as an informant to help capture (and I swear, folks, even I can't make this shit up) a man who was making death threats against Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI).

Turner's transparent cover story is, "Oh, no, I'm not really a bad guy, I'm a good guy who's helping the government apprehend potential terrorists and assassins with my fiery, over-the-top rhetoric."

Anyone with half a brain and even a modicum of a news IQ can recall what happens when the federal government uses informants. Bukko in Australia mentioned something near my neck of the woods regarding the Boston field office of the FBI and turning their back on mob hits because they were being carried out by one of their informants who promised to lead them to the Promised Land, specifically the land on which Whitey Bulger resides to this day in total freedom. And, on a higher plane... Chalabi and Curveball, anyone?

And it's hard to believe that the FBI is so naive and gullible that they can be fooled into thinking that Hal Turner, of all people, a testicle of a man who makes Joe the Plumber look like a responsible, balanced journalist, is really one of the good guys. Turner's long record of brutal intolerance against gays, minorities, liberals, Democrats and others who don't buy into his razor-narrow world view is well, well documented.


Besides, how is it even legal, much less legitimately efficacious, to "pretend" to call for the assassination of our new President? The above screengrab, courtesy of The General, came from Turner's last site before he hurriedly pulled it down. The caption below it was what led the Secret Service to contact the General in regards a post he'd written almost a year ago about this very same threat.

Turner, at the time, was giving instructions on his site on how to make ricin. He's also posted instructions in how to make bombs.

Some people on AmericaBlog have told me that it may come down to someone getting harmed or worse and the federal authorities needing to tie it to Turner's writings before anything can be done about this lunatic. As I'd written this morning to Agent Haug of the FBI, I really shudder to think that, especially in this post-9/11 environment, long established patterns of dangerous behavior isn't actionable enough.

You want to talk about efficacy? Before Judge Lefkow's husband and mother were slain, Turner had not only openly called for her murder (and over a case in which she ruled the Pledge of Allegiance was unconstitutional) but even published her personal information.

Oh, but we're the good guys, doncha know, just some good ole white boys intent on preserving a culture that has subjugated, tortured, raped, pillaged and slaughtered more people than any other race in the history of our planet.

I just pretend to try to bully our elected officials into not voting on things that don't jibe with my lunatic fringe splinter minority.

Well, Hal, here are my thoughts: Your claims of being the good guy are beneath laughter. We all know what you are and what you stand for. You're a David Koresh wannabe who hasn't the balls to even hold a rifle much less stockpile them. Soon, the FBI will tire of you and turn on you. The Secret Service will be back and they won't leave empty-handed.

You can't bully me. I'm a former SEAL who's killed more people than you've ever loved and, at my age, there isn't a helluva lot left for me to fear. You are a pathetic foot soldier in a losing war in which the other side is getting darker and more multiethnic. If you don't believe me, look who's living in the White House.

Finally, I give you this closing image to let you know that you have the crushing weight of history against you.


Achtung, baby.

11 Comments:

At February 15, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's no reason to lie about being a SEAL.

 
At February 15, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Blogger jurassicpork said...

Excuse me??? What the fuck do you know about me, pal?

 
At February 15, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Blogger Wayne A. Schneider said...

The "I was just kidding" defense should be no more acceptable than "I was just following rders." Not when people die because of it.

Putting out the idea that "it wouldn't be such a bad thing if so-and-so were to be killed" (while adding how happy it would make you) is no better than openly calling for someone's murder.

 
At February 15, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Blogger Wayne A. Schneider said...

BTW, I love that last picture. I never saw it before, but it's wonderful.

 
At February 15, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Anonymous Kootenay aka MF said...

Bravo JP, I love you man! I've been back to check on ol' Hal and apparently all us provocateurs are kikes. Oh yeah, and morons, and most definitely not human. I'm quite sure my skin's got several shades darker ever since I posted there this morning. Kikes and niggers and wogs, oh my!

 
At February 15, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Anonymous Kootenay said...

Oh my god, you guys just have to go look at this. Hal says, "Jews absolutely hate Jesus Christ, their Talmud to this day teaches that he is in Hell, boiling in hot semen." Damn near put beer through my nose. Semen, no shit, bwahahahahah!!! Also take a moment to enjoy the "Is Obama really Osama?" picture with a red circle around Osama bin Laden's ear.

Where do you suppose all that semen came from? I mean, it'd take a good bit to boil somebody in...does Satan just jerk off all day, or has he been doing it for a really long time, or both?

 
At February 15, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Blogger Bukko_in_Australia said...

"A testicle of a man" Ha! Excellent phrase.

Re: the Boston Mob murders and memory -- why is it that so few people can remember shit? If people would just pay attention to what has happened before, they could see how the patterns repeat. Too bad that more people can hang onto batting averages of the 1986 Red Sox than can recall news events from the same time period. If people could remember current events as well as they do RBIs, there might be a lot less shit going on in the world.

a culture that has subjugated, tortured, raped, pillaged and slaughtered more people than any other race in the history of our planet.

I'm not saying this to defend my own white race, because we're certainly guilty of some bad stuff. But let's not overlook the Mongols! Genghis Khan and his successors, especially Tamerlane, did some serious massacring throughout the Far and Middle East. It doesn't get as much play in Western consciousness because they did most of the slaughter inthe sand and steppes. The body count might not have been as high as what white people did, but there weren't as many people on the planet to kill. I bet their percentage total of the world population was higher than the percentage total that whiteys offed.

Hope that doesn't make me sound like Hal "Testicle" Turner...

 
At February 16, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Anonymous Rob said...

I figure Turner has his windows blocked with bales of newspaper, & when he isn't having Chinese takeout delivered through a slot in his door he's living off the five year supply of Dinty Moore stew he keeps in the basement.

 
At February 16, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Blogger The Minstrel Boy said...

sheesh. keep the pressure on them jp. the use of informants is one of the most insidious things about law enforcement. in the post 9/11, bush justice world, who's to say that said informants didn't produce their "evidence" from torture?

think that it only happens at abu ghraib, guantanamo, and black sites? reports are rolling in daily in the california system that torture is a common tool used to help control our overcrowded prisons.

incitement to rebellion, is, i believe a crime and it is not protected speech. openly calling for the assination of political office holders should be investigated thoroughly, within the boundries of the law.

i'm glad you didn't take turner's legal theories seriously. the wingnuts do that shit all the time. they make up law. i hope turner does the other beloved right wing thing of challenging his taxes on a constitutional basis (that worked so well for wesley snipes).

the i'm not really a bad guy, i'm a good guy pretending to be a bad guy to help the good guys catch other bad guys dodge is stupid on its face.

 
At February 16, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Blogger HelenWheels said...

Anonymous = Hal Turner or one of its minions. 'Nough said.

Great post. I think the key to marginalizing the scumbag is to spread his blog link around. It's so appalling that any decent, normal person would be justifiably horrified.

What's the difference between Hal Turner's ideology and, say, Eric Rudolph's? I have to wonder why the FBI seems to spend its time bothering book clubs, all the while letting domestic terrorists (and let's face it, he is) incite their braindead and easily led followers to violence.

Thanks for the reminder of the Judge and that tragedy. It's chilling that Turner was calling for violence against her before it happened.

Ugh.

 
At February 17, 2009 at 4:26 PM, OpenID duros62 said...

Putting out the idea that "it wouldn't be such a bad thing if so-and-so were to be killed" (while adding how happy it would make you) is no better than openly calling for someone's murder.

Indeed. Let's not forget that Charlie Manson never personally killed anyone.

 

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