Class
Class. That's what attracts me to the conservative movement. Sheer, unadulterated class. It isn't just about comic relief or the moral relativism that turns Democratic sinners into saints by comparison. It's their class.
What follows are just some handpicked comments from our various ideological competitors on the death of iconic Senator Ted Kennedy. If you ever needed a better reason for donating to Pottersville, spelunking into the moral and intellectual sewage pipes of places like Free Republic, Little Green Footballs and Red State would be it. I took a lot of hits for the team by doing this. (Look out for my counter-comments- They're parenthesized.)
The Freepers never disappoint, as this sampling shows:
In honor of Ted Kennedy, liver transplants for alcoholics will not be free in the government option.
Instead of putting these people on pedestals we should be knocking them off!
There is no forgiveness for the sins of Teddy Boy, he will burn in hell!
One of my favorite Kennedy “accomplishments” was getting the Catholic Church to declare his marriage to Joan “annulled” after 20 or 30 years of marriage and 19 children.
I won’t begrudge anything GWB said in his eulogy - except the part about Teddy loving his country.
“In a life filled with trials, Ted Kennedy never gave in to self-pity or despair”
...couldn’t afford to! Didn’t want to draw attention to his being a murderer. I wish GWB would zip it. He sucked up to this pathetic excuse for a human being and then got “screwd and tatooed” by same. Along with the rest of us. Teddy was about Teddy. That’s all that needs to be said.
Thank goodness for disposable waste bin liners.
Kennedy smears President Bush and our troops on the US Senate floor:
He described the Iraq war as a fraud “made up in Texas” as part of political strategy — accused the President of the US of “telling lie, after lie, after lie”, in order to go to war in Iraq. (it goes on and on about how Sen. Kennedy "smeared" conservatives with inconvenient truths.)
Did you expect (GWB) to say “thank god the bastard is dead”.
If I were a public Official, I would issue this tissue of lies about Fat Teddy also.
It’s what they do.
In public they all say such nice BS’y words. But in private?
Bwaa-haa-haa.
Ted might have been a real lion in congress, but he sure was one rotten human being. I guess the Donks can forgive him for murder but I can't.
Bush lied with flies ...
There is a natural term limit ...
Only the good die young ... RIP Mary-Jo.
Former dictator Saddam Hussein on the death of Senator Kennedy: Welcome to Fire Lake. No swimming allowed.
Again, W shows his class....would the Libs be as kind in the death of W? I think not!!!! (Well, let's tote up the score card: Kennedy killed one woman by accident then lied about it. Bush killed nearly 5000 Americans alone with a years-long carpet-bomb of lies, allegations and innuendos. Nope, I wouldn't give us showing the late W any class much of a chance.)
Let's move on to Red State, shall we? From RS Insider, and his stirring words on "Republican decency":
Well, we all pretty much knew that this was coming:
Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid said that both the Kennedy family and the Senate have “lost our patriarch” and vowed Congress would renew the push for the cause of Kennedy’s life, health care reform.
Out of respect for my RedState colleagues, I have delayed the posting of this post for several hours, but it is worth noting that MSNBC had already reported that Reid (always a classy guy) uttered these words before I made it in to work this morning. In other words, before Kennedy’s corpse was even cold. Now, a wise man once coined the maxim de mortuis, nil nisi bonum, and we here at RedState have always made an effort to let even the death of even the most contemptible of our political foes pass without a word of criticism.
However, given that Reid, et al are apparently going to use this fundamental aspect of Republican decency in order to push a political legislative agenda (rather than, say, allowing the family to grieve privately and quietly, if that is their desire), it sadly becomes necessary to wonder aloud whether Kennedy as a man was worth emulating at all.
Then he goes on and on like a rabid Energizer bunny robotically tap dancing on Ted Kennedy's undug grave and reminding us once again about the virtues of Republican decency. And if that lesson's still lost on you, then check out the inspiring comment below:
Here’s an idea. Let him lie in state in front of the HHS building. Just like Lenin did. Then we could have all the liberals, radicals, and leftist elites parade by with thumbs up claiming, “He’s our guy!”
Of course, there might be a little backlash when someone asks how much money he cost us verses the work he did for the state in the last few years of his life. Then we’ll want to know if anyone asked him if he was depressed, or believed he was a burden to his family, or just didn’t want to go on with his life, since he was terminally ill with brain cancer and all…
Hey, I apologize for being less than respectful, but darn it, they started it. If they are willing to pass him around like a baton in a relay race, or pom poms in a pep rally, then all bets are off.
Again, sorry for being so direct, don’t ban me.
Then there's the stirring eulogy also delivered at Red State by Dan McLaughlin that begins thusly:
It is traditional, upon the passing of an important and famous person - however controversial - to find some good words to say. This is not an easy task in the case of Ted Kennedy, a man whose personal life ranged from alcoholism to debauchery to sexual harrassment (sic) to (sadly, uncharged) second-degree murder, and whose public career entailed the embrace of nearly every foolish, ruinous and cruel political idea of the past five decades and whose most enduring legacy is installing the bitterly polarized modern Supreme Court confirmation process.
Little Green Footfalls, as usual, comes through in a pinch, giving us a dose of their radioactive lunacy (there's only a few noteworthy ones. The only reason there aren't more is because Chuckie is busy deleting the not-so-nice ones and threatening peoples' accounts time and time and time again. Six comments were deleted at last count):
I can hear the left now...
Let us all come together over this terrible tragedy and drop our partisan bickering to pass long-needed health insurance reform.
By that, we mean all you Republicans and town hallers stop complaining and drink our coolaid.
I must confess that I seem to have been born immune to Kennedys. I have never felt any hint of what normal people seem to feel. Sorry. (Empathy, another famed Republican trademark)
Curious how most on the right pay respectful condolences today while the left rushes to exploit his death.
These people are contemptible.
If Ted Kennedy lived under ObamaCare, he would have died last year. (Curious how most on the right are trashing a 47 year senator and turning it into an opportunity to trash health care reform while the left pay respectful condolences.)
Next, I give you Michelle the Merciless and her Little Green Footballers:
There is a time and place for political analysis and criticism. Not now.
Yes, there will be a nauseating excess of MSM hagiographies and lionizations — and crass calls to pass the health care takeover to memorialize his death.
That’s no excuse to demonstrate the same lack of restraint in the other direction. Not now.
If not, then when? When other evil men have died, was there the same restraint?
This is the problem with too many conservative commentators and politicians: They are too nice. For example, they would rather have socialized health care than tell the truth about Ted Kennedy.
Because we all know that is what is going to happen. We’ll have days of gushing coverage of the passing of the “great” Ted Kennedy, with no conservatives with balls to state what an evil man the degenerate was.
Then we will have, as Rush points out, The Ted Kennedy Memorial Health Care bill. And it will probably pass because of all the glowing praise for Kennedy.
Right now is the time to bring up all the evils that Ted Kennedy has inflicted upon this country. (Remember where you heard that first, folks: "Many conservative commentators and politicians are too nice.")
No politics involved. This was an evil man, whether he thought himself so or not. I hope he burns in Hell.
My mother always said, if you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say anything. However, I’ can’t resist. Senator kennedy, as you roast on the spit in hell, can you see the images of all the evil you have embraced?
If Michelle Malkin doesn’t want us to mention any of the evils he inflicted upon our nation (in respect for the death of the cold blooded murderer), how about coming up with ANY good thing he used his power to contribute, as Debbie Schlussel suggests.
Complete silence.
Also, where is the justice to Mary Jo Kopechne when we have conservative commentators, like Michelle, who refuse to say anything bad about Ted Kennedy in his death? (Keep your back against the wall, Michelle, dear. The natives are getting restless.)
I know Michelle wants us to make nice, probably because of how crude remarks made here will be pounced upon by liberal bloggers and the MSM.
That is difficult to do. Would we be hypocrites if we suddenly said glorious things about Senator Kennedy? Yes. Would any tears shed be crocidile tears? Yes.
How do you put aside all the damage this man has done to our country, not to mention his horrible personal behavior? You don’t.
I would say to liberals scouring this comment section for weapons to use against the right - we are sorry for your loss. We know he was one of your icons. Do we regret comments made about the man? not on your life. (Moi? Dragging your spittle-flecked, inappropriate, politically- and ideologically-hateful and ignorant remarks on Kennedy's death kicking and screaming into the light of day to expose you for the detestable, grave-stomping, artists of douchebaggery that you truly are? Moi???)
I am listening to Glenn Beck right now. Pray for him!! Next, I will listen to Rush Limbaugh. Pray for him!! If those voices are taken from us, THAT will be a time to mourn.
I had the misfortune of having to listen to NPR for an hour this morning and it was the entirely expected gushing celebration of this man’s political life. We will be treated to days of this on television.
The liberal media is not playing mournful music and speaking in hushed tones. They are busily and noisily air-brushing one of their political heroes.
We should stand silent for this? Please. I pledge not to speak or post rudely during his actual funeral, but I am definitely not going to stand silent for a days-long orgy of liberal myth-making.
MM I mean no disrespect to you, but we need to call a spade a spade and a shovel a shovel.
The man deserves no respect.None what so ever.The things he did and stood for are despicable.
How about the million of abortions that happened because of this man? The woman he murdered and got away with it? The women he raped?
If you feel he deserves respect, then what about Ted Bundy? (Bundy, unlike Kennedy, was a Republican.)
Ted Kennedy gets a couple days of respectful mourning, or silence if one cannot mourn. Beyond that he will get the respect from me he gave to Robert Bork, which is more than he deserves.
Rounding out the list the always "too nice" Queen of the Airbrushes Debbie Douchebag, who bravely sallies forth into the wastelands of Wingnuttia without Chuckie's or Michelle's hypocritical posturing of civility:
Sadly, I can’t think of a single thing he contributed to America (other than helping subsidize the wine and spirits industry through personal consumption). Can you?
Like I said: Class. May we all aspire to their example.
(In case you're a glutton for punishment, Blue Texan at Firedoglake has even more.)
posted by jurassicpork @ Wednesday, August 26, 2009
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11 Comments:
Hey, actually LittleGreenFootballs turned their back on wingnuttery some time ago. I just checked their site and nearly the first comment on the Teddy thread is from a moderator saying any comments trashing him will be removed.
You don't think lefties wrote shit like this when Reagan died? When your side does it, if you even notice it, the behavior is idiosyncratic; but when your ideological opponents do it, it's typical. Do you not recognize this genuine phenomenon? EVERYONE thinks he's on the good team. P.S. And Reagan didn't even kill a girl!
No, that was Laura Bush.
So, what you're saying is, "Everyone does it so why shouldn't we?"
OK, Kennedy got one woman killed. Reagan got almost 250 Marines killed in Beirut with his military adventurism. Then when things got too hot with Hezbollah, he did what every Republican coward did: He cut and ran.
Kennedy did more good for this country in any one term than Reagan even did during his ruinous eight year term. Reagan is largely the reason for ushering in the infrastructure for abuses that we saw under Dubya.
I personally didn't stamp and rave on Ronnie's grave when he died 5 years ago but I did yawn.
So until you can provide me with some proof that we laughed and jeered when Reagan died 5 years ago, then Please. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
The point was that BOTH the right AND the left do it. Your ideological cohorts include a good many nasties. So listen carefully: I wasn't talking about. By the way, who are you...? Forget it, I've lost interest already.
P.S. Laura Bush was a 17-year-old school girl. Teddy Kennedy was a nearly 40-year-old US Senator who used his power, wealth and privilege to escape Justice. Shit, even Olbermann described him tonight as having "left Mary Jo Kopechne to drown."
Dude, every time you zealous douchebags do something horrible, wingnuts like you are always the first ones to troll blogs like mine and point the finger of blame and say, "But... but you do it, too!"
Like we shoot up churches and schools and fitness clubs? When was the last time you ever saw a liberal kill people and one in whose car the police found books by Michael Moore and Greg Palast?
The fact is, I caught you fucking clowns with your pants down and you don't like the fact that I called attention to you all shitting your pants in public.
I didn't dance on Robert Novak's grave when he died of brain cancer last week. In fact, I was pretty damned respectful.
So before you go trolling liberal blogs and claiming that we're as bad as you, take a look at yourself in the mirror first, you fucking bozo. You people are the hateful, spiteful, disrespectful ones. People like you can't be reasoned with, mollified or compromised with. There are some people who can't be made happy and there are some who won't be made happy. And you conservative/libertarian douchebags are in the latter category.
"I've lost interest already."
Of course you have wingnut....You bastards have short attention spans.....Just like junkies.
Speaking of junkies...Sure,the Stones were junkies....At least they produced Sticky Fingers and Exile On Main St......What did Limbaugh "the Oxycontin junkie" produce other than a used condom within a third world country known for child sex tours?
The previous poster is indeed correct.
The Republican's obsession with Ms. Mary-Jo is a perfect example of their own hypocrisy.
Not one single Republican actually gives a shit about Mary-Jo, they only care that they can use her corpse to besmirch the good that Senator Kennedy attempted and sometimes succeeded in doing with his position as Senator.
Republicans not only have no problems that Reagan ordered hundreds of Marines to their pointless deaths, no problem with Reagan's un-Constitutional deal (treason) with Iran to sell arms to anti-freedom traitors in Nicaragua so that they could slaughter more civilians there, Republicans rejoice in Reagan and claim that all US Presidents should emulate him.
And Republicans love Negroponte and his death squads that murdered thousands of unarmed civilians in Honduras. The Republican Party loves death squads so much they even brought Negroponte back under the Bush Regime just so he could murder Iraqi civilians.
Bush chose to start two illegal wars in just two years solely to increase the profits of Halliburton, who still had VP Cheney on their payroll for the first four years of the Bush Admin. Cheney was working directly for Halliburton while VP, so he certainly had an interest in making sure America used our military to illegally destroy civilian infrastructure just so his company could 'rebuild' it (which, of course they did not actually do).
The mass murder Iraqi and Afghani civilians was a side benefit for the Republican Party - they got to kill hundreds of thousands, displace millions and force women into prostitution - all just for the fun of it.
All that murder on the orders of Republicans is celebrated by both 'conservatives' and 'libertarians' alike! Mass murder is obviously a cornerstone of the Republican Party, the Party of Life, as they call themselves as they murder even more civilians in far off lands for the profits of their pet corporate entities.
But Kennedy is somehow more evil because he was responsible for the death of one young woman 40 years ago?
Will all the cumalot concubines throw themselves on the funeral pyre or on O'bamaugh? The mafia fascist molestor league elected Baerpheon O'Phalleigh O'Bamaugh as president with the most Catholic cabinet in history. Just as Kennedy was a hypocrite, Vatican Osservatore Romano editor Vian said on may 18th that Obama "is not a pro-abortion president." What does this prove? That the Vatican message on abortion has only been for politcal purposes. It was used to divide, to encourage Catholics to breed and to encourage non-Catholics to abort out of spite. The Vatican likes the abortion status quo in the USA for this reason. Their purpose is only conquest, not faith. Carolignian Brzezinski spawned Zia al Haq, Khomeini, and bin Laden - breaks up superpowers via Aztlan and Kosovo as per Joel Garreau's Nine Nations. Brzezinski, Buckley and Buchanan winked anti-Semitic votes for Obama, delivered USA to Pope's feudal basket of Bamana Republics. Michael Pfleger and Joe Biden prove Obama is the Pope's boy. Obama is half a Kearney from County Offaly in Ireland. Talal got Pontifical medal as Fatima mandates Catholic-Muslim union against Jews (Francis Johnson, Great Sign, 1979, p. 126), Catholic Roger Taney wrote Dred Scott decision. John Wilkes Booth, Tammany Hall and Joe McCarthy were Catholics. Now Catholic majority Supreme Court. Catholics Palmisano, Grasso, Damato, Langone, Mozilo, Ranieri, Dioguardi, Palmieri destroyed American industry. Subprime construction mobsters had hookers deliver mortgages to banks. McCain's Keeting started it all. They find American cars too advanced to use or their mechanics to fix. Ellis Island Popeholes brought in FDR. Their slovenly, anti-intellectual work ethic produces vacuous, casuistrous blather and a tangle of contradictory regulations. Their clubhouse purges provided praetorian training for corporate misgovernance. NYC top drop outs: Hispanic 32%, Black 25%, Italian 20%. NYC top illegals: Ecuadorean, Italian, Polish. Ate glis-glis but blamed plague on others, now lettuce coli. Their bigotry most encouraged terror yet they reap most security funds. Rabbi circumcises lower, Pope upper brain. Tort explosion by glib casuistry. Hollywood Joe Kennedy had Bing Crosby proselytise. Bazelya 1992 case proves PLO-IRA-KLA links. Our enemy is the Bru666elles Sineurabia Axis and the only answer is alliance with Israel and India. They killed six million Jews, a million Serbs, half a million freemasons, a quarter million Gypsies, they guided the slaughter of Assyrians and Armenians, and promoted the art of genocide throughout the world. They had no qualms hijacking American policy in Vietnam or Balkans to papal ends, but when American interests opposed tose of the papacy in Iraq, they showed their true fangs (Frum, Unpatriotic Conservatives). They could not countenance a Mormon President! They broke their own coalition with their foreign adventures and with their unwillingness to extend home and school subsidies to other races, as evidenced by their missing their own Obama moment when they could have elected a Kenyan pope. Every American boom has been caused by an Evangelical Revival and every major Depression by the domination of new Catholic immigrants. See for example George Marlin's history of the conservative party in New York or Paul Johnson's Modern Times, extolling the rise of Carolignianism of Adenauer, de Gaulle, and Gaspieri, forgetting that Hitler, too, was Carolignian and a Catholic altar boy.
In a word: WTF?!
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