Thursday, December 4, 2008

Poll: Less Educated, More Religious More Likely to Support Prop 8

I know this sounds suspiciously like the so-called poll data that came out after the 2000 and 2004 election that "proved" (and dismissed by Snopes) red states that went for Bush were less educated but this one is the real thing:
People who identified themselves as practicing Christians were highly likely to support the constitutional amendment, with 85 percent of evangelical Christians, 66 percent of Protestants and 60 percent of Roman Catholics favoring it.

The poll also showed that the measure got strong backing from voters who did not attend college (69 percent), voters who earned less than $40,000 a year (63 percent) and Latinos (61 percent).

Then one reads something that Andrew Sullivan wrote a couple of weeks ago:
Rod (Dreher) longs, as many do, for a return to the days when civil marriage brought with it a whole bundle of collectively-shared, unchallenged, teleological, and largely Judeo-Christian, attributes. Civil marriage once reflected a great deal of cultural and religious assumptions: that women's role was in the household, deferring to men; that marriage was about procreation, which could not be contracepted; that marriage was always and everywhere for life; that marriage was a central way of celebrating the primacy of male heterosexuality, in which women were deferent, non-heterosexuals rendered invisible and unmentionable, and thus the vexing questions of sexual identity and orientation banished to the catch-all category of sin and otherness, rather than universal human nature.

To tell Rod something he already knows: Modernity has ended that dream. Permanently.

OK, then explain Proposition 8, Sully.

Gay conservatives like Sullivan are becoming increasingly infamous for jumping off the short bus of conservatism long after his scheduled stop and wondering why the other passengers began glaring at him and no longer got up from their seats to let him sit at the front of the bus like in the good old days. And why he has been relegated to a shrieking piece of furniture on Bill Maher's sound stage every 6 weeks or so railing about the failures of the Bush administration and conservatism in general.

Just over a month ago, we'd repudiated Bush, the Republican party, their domestic agenda, their foreign agenda, virtually every single agenda that Republicans have flogged us with for the last eight years with Fox "News", any dinosaur network they could buy, coerce, wheedle, threaten, intimidate or cajole.

But the one thing that didn't change was what Sullivan himself insists did change: That the traditional molds of marriage have been broken over the pointy heads of degressives, let's call them, that marriage is no longer defined as an institution between a man and a woman, that women were deferential and diffident to the primacy of the male.

Again, I reiterate, Andrew, explain Prop 8, which was largely ramrodded like a well-endowed, well-paid, well-lubricated phallus of a gay porno film actor by a Stan Lee religion in which their ill-educated devotees believe in deities that sound suspiciously like a Galactus/Silver Surfer comic book. What happened to Modernity?

Sullivan seemed to think all these years that his straight fag hag Republican friends would continue supporting the gay community of which he's a prominent part because they hadn't beaten the shit out of him and hung him out to dry in the winds of nonchange on a barbed wire fence somewhere in Wyoming.

And in some ways, Sullivan is still, like a pathetic character in a Twilight Zone episode, riding the short bus, looking at the unchanging landscape roll and scroll past him and wondering why he can't get off that damned bus.


At December 4, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Blogger jurassicpork said...

You know, I was going to continue this vein of thought until I realized on coming home that this isn't a dialogue. It's a fucking soliloquy. I mean, why do I waste my time on a blog that averages less than 500 hits a day and in half my posts generates zero comments?

Screw this.

At December 5, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You might get more hits if you weren't quitting all the time. And unfortunately, even though what you write is all too true, it's angry. Anger in these times is indeed justified. But it turns most people off. Look at your friend D-Cup Politits. The stuff she has to say isn't nearly as relevant as your screeds. But she has all these followers. I think it's because she's all soft and mushy. Her writing, not her ta-tas.

At December 5, 2008 at 2:29 AM, Blogger nunya said...

The minute it stops eing important it will happen. That's the way it always goes. :)

At December 5, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, JP's anger has fueled some of the best posts I've ever read, and I read multitudes of blogs every day. But, on a personal note, JP: You are writing for yourself, not for any other person out there. That's what a blog is about. If you are bean-counting the hits and responses, that's your own insecurity. Stop threatening, keep writing, I LOVE IT.
I'm your biggest fan.
BeeSeejd in Santa Monica

At December 5, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

P.S. If it's DIALOGUE you want, schedule a cam-chat with your fans. I'd love to talk to you. And I have a cam. Your turn.

At December 5, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Blogger jurassicpork said...

Bee: I don't have a camera, so that ain't gonna happen, either. It would prolly come down to just you and me, anyway.


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